Microsoft Can Track Users via a Windows Device ID

(pcmag.com)

78 points | by ifh-hn 1 hour ago

8 comments

  • cheschire 43 minutes ago
    Well they can’t use that to track users of Linux.

    I was a big fan of Microsoft ten to fifteen years ago. I’ve since transitioned my whole family off Microsoft products now over to Linux, Apple, and proton. Edit: and Brave.

    I really thought their corporate culture would’ve changed after the late 90’s but I guess this is a good lesson for founders. The culture you build into your company will likely outlast your tenure.

  • xnx 16 minutes ago
    Vague article. No evidence that Microsoft can see what web pages you are visiting in Chrome or Firefox (for example).
  • midtake 1 hour ago
    To me this indicates that Microsoft has some sort of traffic analysis performed on endpoints, then linked to GDID. I'd guess this is part of Defender's real time protection or MAPS.

    Fun fact, Microsoft Defender MAPS was previously named SpyNet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Active_Protection_Se...

    The GDID identifier seems software in nature though. They could be more aggressive and tie it to the baseboard's serial number the way some games do. Then the hardware is tracked throughout its entire lifecycle, not just per instance of Windows install.

  • zelphirkalt 44 minutes ago
    My surprise level is at approximately... zero. Next we will see some news, that MS was compelled to share that info with some three letters. - Oh wait, that is exactly what has already happened, according to the article.

    MS is just like that person, who drives a dagger into your back.

  • egamirorrim 48 minutes ago
    Truly terrifying. But also shocking that a 'hacker' is using windows
    • efilife 15 minutes ago
      Some hackers want to spend their time doing cool stuff rather than constantly fixing their system
  • protocolture 1 hour ago
    Probably a capability demanded through a TCN or TAN as part of a mechanism like Australias Access and Assistance bill.
  • surcap526 20 minutes ago
    [dead]
  • Terr_ 1 hour ago
    TLDR: Microsoft can (at least) correlate your Windows installation to all website domains you visit while using Windows.

    It's unclear what the mechanism is, but I'd wager their "telemetry" is constantly revealing your installation ID, your current IP, and domains that were recently resolved.

    • pogue 1 hour ago
      The article links to this page, which was shared on HN yesterday. [1]

      I feel like using wireshark to look at what's being sent back and forth from Windows telemetry, when using Edge, Chrome & etc should reveal what's being sent and recieved. Using MITM SSL spoofing should be able to intercept the packets.

      [1] https://github.com/SmtimesIWndr/gdid-reversal

      • Terr_ 1 hour ago
        I would be shocked if Microsoft was not using their own layer of certificate-pinning to stop people from doing that, and/or using another layer of encryption separate from the networking layer.
        • pogue 58 minutes ago
          Only way to see what's going on is testing to see what's going on. Hopefully, someone who knows more about it than me can take a look at the packets and see what they contain.
        • cromka 1 hour ago
          But you'd still see some encrypted traffic and it wouldn't fly under a radar
    • 8cvor6j844qw_d6 23 minutes ago
      I was under the impression Windows is unreliable for these kind of activities as they are "leakish".

      I imagine it's not too difficult to narrow down the potential suspects with how much data points you'd get from ISP, Windows telemetry, and whatever.

    • red_admiral 29 minutes ago
      "all" would be troubling indeed. I hope that someone can discover the mechanism, and whether it's depending on any settings like "Share browsing data with other Windows features" or any other settings.
    • echelon_musk 1 hour ago
      Worse than just domains as TFA shows full URLs are recorded.

      Reminds me of Google Safebrowsing.